Dervish or Ranger? - Guild Wars Forums

Pipili · Apr 23, 2009, 06:14 PM // 18:14

Im new and i have nightfall and EOTN. So basically just want your opinion on those classes. Who is easier to play? Who is more fun to play? Dervish has nicer gear but ranger has pet, so far thats only thing i know.

What secondary prof. is best for derv and for ranger? Dont like to heal though.

Any advice would be VERY welcome.

SeraCombi · Apr 23, 2009, 06:19 PM // 18:19

Hi Pipili, you'll get a lot of different answers to your questions because people have their favorites.

I would say the question is: Do you like fighting in melee or ranged distance?

If you're more of a melee person, go derv. If you're more of a distance fighter, or caster, then choose ranger.

Personally, I like ranger and dislike derv, but again, personal preference.

Verene · Apr 23, 2009, 06:25 PM // 18:25

They are basically two completely different things and it depends on what you want to do. Rangers are great for staying back and doing damage, as well as interrupting. Dervishes are good at getting in close and blowing things up. Though I'd say that Dervishes are more like casters than Rangers are - the class is the best mix of magic and combat that the game has.

I love Dervish, it's my favorite profession in the game. So I'd be inclined to cheer on anyone thinking of picking up Dervish. But yeah, really it depends on what you like and want to do.

Why not try making one of each, play them for a bit, and see which you like better?

Kendil · Apr 23, 2009, 06:37 PM // 18:37

Oh that's a hard one! I like both rangers and dervishes, so I suggest you start two chars and then decide which one you like the best.

In terms of secondaries, it totally depends on what you wants to do.

Rangers are a verry wide class, giving you totally different roles depending on your secondary, but they can still do well going full ranger.
Necroes is required to do the touch-build, and a Dervish for a scyth ranger. In general play is monk the most common choise due to mending touch, you can also use hard res.
For spiking builds, ele might be a good option, or maybe the necromancer skill barbs.

As a Dervish, you can make use of some monk short lasting enchantments giving you mystisicm bonus. Or a warrior for stance removal and maybe some tactic skills.
I don't know if poision tip signet works well with scythes, but if it does, it might be a great skill for a dervish. EDIT: I've checked, and it don't, so to be able to spread poision, you'll have to use apply poision, but it might still be worth it? If you can manage energy.
Assassins can be used to gain access to shadow stepps and dash and maybe decent self heal.

There is probably much more to add, but this is what I come up with at the moment.

Archress Shayleigh · Apr 23, 2009, 06:37 PM // 18:37

Yeah, make one of each, then decide which you like better. and you can always delete characters. so no big deal. i personally am a huge ranger fan, so xP don't ask me that question.

Shadowhaze · Apr 23, 2009, 06:49 PM // 18:49

I like both of them as well (but my main char is a ranger

).

Both professions have nice armor, weapons, skills, etc available. And on a sidenote, any character you create can have a pet if you're secondary ranger.

I'd also try both out and see which you like better then go from there.

Wyndy · Apr 23, 2009, 06:52 PM // 18:52

The great thing about Guild Wars is that even after you have chosen a profession, you still have many choices in how you play that profession. You can even change your mind! My heart always belongs to my ranger. She was my first char in this game almost four years ago, so I have a soft spot for them. You do have a few more possibilities if you go ranger as I believe their base energy is slightly higher than dervish..... it would help with energy hogs like ele as secondary.

Rhamia Darigaz · Apr 23, 2009, 06:53 PM // 18:53

ranger because it's not a shitty degenerate version of a warrior.

turbo234 · Apr 23, 2009, 07:04 PM // 19:04

I would say ranger but just make one of each to see how they both are. And to clear up something up that verene said rangers aren't intended for damage. They give pressure by spreading poison through [apply poison] and interrupting key skills with [distracting shot][savage shot][magebane shot].

lewis91 · Apr 23, 2009, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Rangers are fun. I don't like dervishs' all that well. Its also fun to go R/D and sprint around spanking thigns like your a dervish, sept with better attack speed buffs and block skills.

SeraCombi · Apr 23, 2009, 07:09 PM // 19:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbo234

... rangers aren't intended for damage.

>.O

My burning arrow build would like to have a word with you, young man.

Also, my splinter barrage build has a few things to say.

No, you may not bring your calculator with you...put it on the desk there.

Faure · Apr 23, 2009, 07:33 PM // 19:33

Rangers, because they can quite decently run scythe builds where a dervish can't run a decent ranger build.

And apart form that Rangers are more versatile and imo more fun. Go for conditions? Dmg (turrent spam!)? Or prefer the interrupting? Or maybe you want to swap around and go with a pet and a hammer or scythe.

Megas XLR · Apr 23, 2009, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Go Dervish so that you can run Save Yourselves with a scythe. Dervishes also look better, while having a pet loses it's cool-factor very fast.

gremlin · Apr 23, 2009, 08:10 PM // 20:10

I have both a Ranger and a Dervish and enjoy both, don't forget you get a secondary class so you could choose Ranger or Dervish secondary so you could have a pet whatever class you choose.

Remember also your secondary class can be changed some way into the game and after that point can be changed at will.

Primary class sets up Energy base amount and recovery rate, Armour type and a Primary skill list.

So a Warrior Elementalist would have better armour but less energy while a Elementalist Warrior would leve less armour and more energy for spells.

I hope that informs more than it confuses lol

read up a little before deciding or better yet try one class for a day then try the other, you have plenty of character slots.

Taurean · Apr 23, 2009, 08:31 PM // 20:31

I only play ranger, using only ranger skills.. i recommend it because of the variety. You can go for a beast master\marksman build, survivor\marksman, you have the trappers, interrupt\damage... and you have some great defensive skills like [Melandru's resilience]

ightgg · Apr 23, 2009, 08:45 PM // 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeraCombi

>.O

My burning arrow build would like to have a word with you, young man.

Also, my splinter barrage build has a few things to say.

No, you may not bring your calculator with you...put it on the desk there.

ranger is not a damage dealing profession at all thats why its ranged. btw burning = condition gg and Rt/R Spirits Strength Splint Volley x3 Splint Barrage? or GreatDwarfWeapon = Pwnage. So in the bow for damage department Rt pwnz Ran. And dervish are enchant tanks. taking what the warriors didnt have. Energy and enchants and using those instead of stances and shouts. So paragon took Ranger and War and merged. Dervish is probably Sin and Monk? Who knows but Anet. Id say Dervish is more fun cause being a bowman is kinda boring but mobbing up a big group and swinging your scythe watching yourself slaughter like the grim reaper. own

gg -Rit <3

Kendil · Apr 23, 2009, 09:13 PM // 21:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mia Wynd

. You do have a few more possibilities if you go ranger as I believe their base energy is slightly higher than dervish.....

Wrong there

Both has the base energy pool of 25 energy. But Dervishes has 4 pips of energy regen while the Rangers only has three. But this could be weighten upby various energy management skills, like Melandru's resiliance.

Pipili · Apr 23, 2009, 09:48 PM // 21:48

OMG you guys are awesome. Thanks so much for all the help. But please dont forget i only have nightfall and EOTN, so i cant have skills from first two chapters. And some people even say i will suck because in PVP because of that.

Anyway i will make both chars and see which one feels better, but overall, with only nightfall and EOTN skills, which will be more usefull in PVP and PVP? Which one has more "must have" skills available in nightfall and EOTN?

I just dont want to suck and be at the bottom in PVP always. Also i am not a teenager anymore, so my reflexes are not that good.

-Makai- · Apr 23, 2009, 10:20 PM // 22:20

Since you're new, I'd have to recommend Ranger. They have a wide variety of different skills, which will help you learn the game better.

Mr Deathbringer · Apr 23, 2009, 10:33 PM // 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sante_Kelm

Since you're new, I'd have to recommend Ranger. They have a wide variety of different skills, which will help you learn the game better.

Woooooooow... You totally didn't even listen to what he said. Well anyways if you would have took some time to read his post, you'd know he stated he only had Nightfalls and EOTN. Now back on track, seeing as you only have those two games it would be more beneficial that you become a dervish. Due to the fact all of it skills come from those two games only. However since the ranger class was introduce in the first game, you can expect to see it skills spread out through out all 4 games. So basically you would have a more versatile character in term of build and ect. if you go dervish.

There I have given my advice, you may all awe in my prowess... Praise Mr. Deathbringer jking

Apr 23, 2009, 06:14 PM // 18:14	#1
Pipili Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2009	Dervish or Ranger? Im new and i have nightfall and EOTN. So basically just want your opinion on those classes. Who is easier to play? Who is more fun to play? Dervish has nicer gear but ranger has pet, so far thats only thing i know. What secondary prof. is best for derv and for ranger? Dont like to heal though. Any advice would be VERY welcome.

Apr 23, 2009, 06:37 PM // 18:37	#4
Kendil Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sweden	Oh that's a hard one! I like both rangers and dervishes, so I suggest you start two chars and then decide which one you like the best. In terms of secondaries, it totally depends on what you wants to do. Rangers are a verry wide class, giving you totally different roles depending on your secondary, but they can still do well going full ranger. Necroes is required to do the touch-build, and a Dervish for a scyth ranger. In general play is monk the most common choise due to mending touch, you can also use hard res. For spiking builds, ele might be a good option, or maybe the necromancer skill barbs. As a Dervish, you can make use of some monk short lasting enchantments giving you mystisicm bonus. Or a warrior for stance removal and maybe some tactic skills. I don't know if poision tip signet works well with scythes, but if it does, it might be a great skill for a dervish. EDIT: I've checked, and it don't, so to be able to spread poision, you'll have to use apply poision, but it might still be worth it? If you can manage energy. Assassins can be used to gain access to shadow stepps and dash and maybe decent self heal. There is probably much more to add, but this is what I come up with at the moment. Last edited by Kendil; Apr 23, 2009 at 06:57 PM // 18:57.. Reason: I checked poision tip signet

Apr 23, 2009, 06:19 PM // 18:19	#2
SeraCombi Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hiding in a cave in old Ascalon	Hi Pipili, you'll get a lot of different answers to your questions because people have their favorites. I would say the question is: Do you like fighting in melee or ranged distance? If you're more of a melee person, go derv. If you're more of a distance fighter, or caster, then choose ranger. Personally, I like ranger and dislike derv, but again, personal preference.

Apr 23, 2009, 06:25 PM // 18:25	#3
Verene Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jan 2009 Guild: [SOTA] Profession: D/	They are basically two completely different things and it depends on what you want to do. Rangers are great for staying back and doing damage, as well as interrupting. Dervishes are good at getting in close and blowing things up. Though I'd say that Dervishes are more like casters than Rangers are - the class is the best mix of magic and combat that the game has. I love Dervish, it's my favorite profession in the game. So I'd be inclined to cheer on anyone thinking of picking up Dervish. But yeah, really it depends on what you like and want to do. Why not try making one of each, play them for a bit, and see which you like better?

Apr 23, 2009, 06:37 PM // 18:37	#5
Archress Shayleigh Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Guild Hall Profession: R/	Yeah, make one of each, then decide which you like better. and you can always delete characters. so no big deal. i personally am a huge ranger fan, so xP don't ask me that question.

Apr 23, 2009, 06:49 PM // 18:49	#6
Shadowhaze Nothing, tra la la? Join Date: Oct 2007	I like both of them as well (but my main char is a ranger ). Both professions have nice armor, weapons, skills, etc available. And on a sidenote, any character you create can have a pet if you're secondary ranger. I'd also try both out and see which you like better then go from there.

Apr 23, 2009, 06:52 PM // 18:52	#7
Wyndy Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: in the know Guild: Chronic Chaos Profession: N/Me	The great thing about Guild Wars is that even after you have chosen a profession, you still have many choices in how you play that profession. You can even change your mind! My heart always belongs to my ranger. She was my first char in this game almost four years ago, so I have a soft spot for them. You do have a few more possibilities if you go ranger as I believe their base energy is slightly higher than dervish..... it would help with energy hogs like ele as secondary.

Apr 23, 2009, 06:53 PM // 18:53	#8
Rhamia Darigaz Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2008	ranger because it's not a shitty degenerate version of a warrior.

Apr 23, 2009, 07:04 PM // 19:04	#9
turbo234 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WI Profession: Mo/	I would say ranger but just make one of each to see how they both are. And to clear up something up that verene said rangers aren't intended for damage. They give pressure by spreading poison through [apply poison] and interrupting key skills with [distracting shot][savage shot][magebane shot].

Apr 23, 2009, 07:04 PM // 19:04	#10
lewis91 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wales Guild: Order of the Azurelight[OA] Profession: E/	Rangers are fun. I don't like dervishs' all that well. Its also fun to go R/D and sprint around spanking thigns like your a dervish, sept with better attack speed buffs and block skills.

Apr 23, 2009, 07:33 PM // 19:33	#12
Faure Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Mystic Spiral [MYST] Profession: R/	Rangers, because they can quite decently run scythe builds where a dervish can't run a decent ranger build. And apart form that Rangers are more versatile and imo more fun. Go for conditions? Dmg (turrent spam!)? Or prefer the interrupting? Or maybe you want to swap around and go with a pet and a hammer or scythe.

Apr 23, 2009, 07:53 PM // 19:53	#13
Megas XLR Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2009 Profession: D/W	Go Dervish so that you can run Save Yourselves with a scythe. Dervishes also look better, while having a pet loses it's cool-factor very fast.

Apr 23, 2009, 08:10 PM // 20:10	#14
gremlin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: GWAR Profession: Me/Mo	I have both a Ranger and a Dervish and enjoy both, don't forget you get a secondary class so you could choose Ranger or Dervish secondary so you could have a pet whatever class you choose. Remember also your secondary class can be changed some way into the game and after that point can be changed at will. Primary class sets up Energy base amount and recovery rate, Armour type and a Primary skill list. So a Warrior Elementalist would have better armour but less energy while a Elementalist Warrior would leve less armour and more energy for spells. I hope that informs more than it confuses lol read up a little before deciding or better yet try one class for a day then try the other, you have plenty of character slots.

Apr 23, 2009, 08:31 PM // 20:31	#15
Taurean Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South of Norway - The land of Vikings Guild: I have no guild - Yet Profession: R/	I only play ranger, using only ranger skills.. i recommend it because of the variety. You can go for a beast master\marksman build, survivor\marksman, you have the trappers, interrupt\damage... and you have some great defensive skills like [Melandru's resilience]

Apr 23, 2009, 09:48 PM // 21:48	#18
Pipili Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2009	OMG you guys are awesome. Thanks so much for all the help. But please dont forget i only have nightfall and EOTN, so i cant have skills from first two chapters. And some people even say i will suck because in PVP because of that. Anyway i will make both chars and see which one feels better, but overall, with only nightfall and EOTN skills, which will be more usefull in PVP and PVP? Which one has more "must have" skills available in nightfall and EOTN? I just dont want to suck and be at the bottom in PVP always. Also i am not a teenager anymore, so my reflexes are not that good.

Apr 23, 2009, 10:20 PM // 22:20	#19
-Makai- Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2007 Location: WA Guild: DH Profession: Rt/	Since you're new, I'd have to recommend Ranger. They have a wide variety of different skills, which will help you learn the game better.